Friday, 31 May 2013

News roundup week ending 31 May


What Nikki did next

Our County Councillor has posted another update of her activity for the last week – the next one is promised for two weeks, presumably as this is a holiday week for anyone with school-age children (myself included).

It is the usual staple stuff of local politics – potholes and road repairs – but there is this:

Met with officer responsible for Local Area Committee to discuss how experiences of Haslemere during parking debacle could provide learning for SCC. One positive outcome is that specific training given to Chairs and Vice Chairs of all Local Area Committees. The meeting protocol has also been adapted to allow members of the public the opportunity to speak (albeit with limited rights) during the debate on an agenda item as it happens.

By “members of the public” I assume she means Robert Serman – or perhaps he is an honorary councillor already?  In any case I don’t see how this can work fairly – it opens the door to ranters and ravers and people with something worthwhile to say won’t get a word in edgeways.  Probably best to stick to the formal questions system.

On which note, Mrs B advises that There will be no parking items on the Local Committee agenda until December 2013 in the parking review. Changes in Weydown Road will be reviewed at this time apart from access protection markings which could go ahead before December.  No mention here of Beech Road, take note, although you would expect it to be covered.   If you want to shape that agenda you might want to write in to the local committee with questions for the two meetings preceding then.  These are scheduled for 5 July and 20th September, both Fridays.  The July meeting is apparently due to be held in Upper Hale Rd, Farnham, but you don't have to attend in person to ask a formal written question - these must be submitted to David North at SCC (d.north@surreycc.gov.uk ) at least a week in advance (I assume that means by the preceding Thursday night) and answers are handed out at the meeting, and will later be published on the SCC website.  I believe you get the chance to ask a supplementary question at the meeting if you are present.

With luck by then the schemes will have had a few weeks of operation to provide opportunity for comment and questions, apart of course from Beech Road where perhaps the impact of other schemes may have had some time to make themselves felt in terms of hospital outpatients being displaced by all day parkers moving into the area.  GIven that the news in the Surrey Advertiser is that the inpatients' wards in the hospital are soon due to re-open following their extensive refurbishment, one can imagine that the parking situation in Beech Rd will only get worse - the outpatients arriving for clinics eg blood tests have of course been coming throughout but there will now be additional visitors coming to deliver or collect in-patients, or to visit them on the wards. 
 

In this week’s Herald
Not much really.  There is an article about the Waverley Core Strategy on the front page – this is very dry stuff indeed although it is also very important as it forms the backbone of the planning policy for the next ten years, including how many new houses should be built, and where. There is also an article about the Hospital which, like the Surrey Ad article referred to above, quotes extensively from the League of Friends chairman, Professor Vincent Marks.  It reveals that Professor Marks has annnounced his intention to stand down as chairman of the LoF, for which role I would like to propose a vote of thanks to him and best wishes for the future.  His successor will be Liphook resident and former nurse Rose Parry.
On the letters page, evidently there is no-one who feels strongly that something black should be repainted white, or vice versa, or that zebra crossings should be dug up – purely anecdotally, from my own experience either on foot in town or driving through en route to collect my kids from the tennis club, the new zebra seems to me to be a great success, and has increased the foot traffic across Petworth Road, no doubt to the benefit of the commerces on the southern side – and there is only one letter concerning Haslemere, in the feature spot, from Graeme Spratley, responding to last week’s article referenced in my last post.

 
So, how about a straw poll:  how do you feel about the variety or quality of our local retail offering?  Would you prefer to see more independent retailers, or do you prefer chainstores as Graeme suggests some people do?  Would you, in particular, like to see a Carphone Warehouse/Phones4U, as proposed by Mr Clayton?  How about M&S Food, mooted as the anchor tenant for any retail development built on the old Weyhill Fairground (carpark) site?  Would you like to see, say, a Wagamama or a Nando’s occupying the retail site planned for where the old Arco Felice restaurant used to sit overlooking the Waitrose carpark?  How about a Betfair betting shop – as some rumours have suggested we might get, despite the fact that experience suggests betting shops open close to pockets of deprivation, and while I have no doubt there is some (and a foodbank is therefore necessary) deprivation is not normally the first word that springs to mind when thinking about Haslemere?  How about Robert Dyas takes over the site currently occupied by Miles in West St?  Comments welcome.


17 comments:

  1. I'm disappointed that there has not so far been any evidence of the "Spearmint Hippo" lap-dancing club which advertised for staff in the window of the empty premises next to the new WH Smith in West St. That must of got a few of our worthys' blood pressures up!

    Until they reflected omn the date the ad was posted - April 1.

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  2. The problem, as Mr Spratley has suggested, is that the dynamics of retailing have changed and many retailers havent woken up to that yet. Combine that with historically high rents, high rates and a prolonged recession and you can understand the difficulty traditional retailing is going through. Free car parking in Haslemeres car parks and residential roads however is not the answer to increased sales.
    Every retailer worth his salt needs to offer an online service and also needs to operate with minimal cost and minimal long term fixed overheads. An indoor Market could offer that. (Hint hint – Collingwood Batchelors unfeasibly large store. Does a furniture store really need to occupy prime high street frontage in such a small town?)

    As for the larger nationals, I doubt Haslemere is on the radar even for the restaurant chains but I could be wrong. We have the right demographic make up but do we have the catchment?

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    1. I have heard that the Collingwood Batchelor premises, and the land behind used as car parking, belongs to the Co-op. At one time it was a supermarket - Presto? - and my understanding is that the Co-op did a deal with CB at very favourable terms specifically to prevent another supermarket getting its hands on the site, as it would likely not be competing with Waitrose, but with the Co-op down Lion Lane.

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  3. Don't much care either way but we no longer visit those shops that allowed their names to be used in the residential road parking uproar. The original list of circa 4000 (or was it a few Haslemere folk + 3900 just passing through) was aimed at business problems with the changes in parking controls. Take Nobbs, the owner doesn't live in Surrey and thus doesn't care if the Surrey books don't balance, the ratepayers will simply have to pay more.

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    1. A rather insulting remark considering the shop has been in Haslemere and in my family since 1935, I was born and bred here and currently pay nearly £15,000 per annum in business rates for which I get very little benefit! I think if you looked at the addresses on the petition you would see that you are mistaken about the people who signed the petition too! I am sorry you no longer shop here but not sorry to have avoided the parking meters that now blight Farnham

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    2. I think plenty of insults - and worse, assertions which are only marginally, if at all, removed from defamation - have been traded in the other direction on this issue, and had this comment been more than merely robust I would have removed it.

      Unfortunately nobody gets much benefit from business rates anywhere in the south east of England, because they are set nationally, not by the county or borough, and are collected nationally for distribution back to local authorities as grant-aid, with no resemblance between the amounts collected and distributed in a given location. You pay, various inner cities and the regions distant from London benefit. You can't blame Surrey or Waverley for that.

      And let's get this absolutely straight. At no time, ever, in the process of the last couple of years, was it suggested that Haslemere would get parking meters. The proposal, from the start, was for Pay&Display machines. Perhaps you don't see a distinction but for those objectors whose objection was primarily aesthetic, the distinction is important.

      The myth that local authorities (apart from the extremely lucky Westminster and RBKC) are primarily revenue-driven by charging for parking is just that - a myth. Similarly, the notion that people actually make their choice of where they are going to shop based on difference in parking price is also entirely misconceived. Otherwise everyone would shop in Midhurst and no-one would shop in Guildford, and Tanners Lane car park would be full to bursting and the High St car park would be half-empty, whereas it is actually the other way around

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    3. That is typical mis-information distributed by the Anti-parking Lobby and the shopkeepers Councillor Mrs Barton to gain support for their cause.
      What really is insulting is opposing residents wishes for parking controls in the roads they live in! Thats called "biting off the hand that feeds you."
      Nobbs is on my banned list too,along with other well known retailers that opposed parking controls.

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    4. From Wikipedia on Business Rates: "Billing and collection is the responsibility of the local authorities who are funded by the tax, but rather than receipts being retained directly, they are pooled centrally and then are redistributed. The rateable value is multiplied by a centrally-set fraction to produce the annual bill; a number of reliefs are available, such as those for charities and small businesses. In 2005/06, £19.9 billion was collected in business rates, representing 4.35% of the total UK tax income." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_rates_in_England_and_Wales)

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  4. I would guess as you say somewhat less than 4,000 haslemere folk - otherwise, where were their votes when Mrs B stood for councillor? The petition focussed on the shopping streets, as the protest flyer makes plain, although it also misleadingly implied that there would be a charge of £1/h across the entire day making a max charge of £11.50 when the proposal was never to charge more than £5. Add to that the fact that the proposal also envisaged 30 free minutes for on-street parking (a fact ignored by Mrs Barton in her electioneering - she stated that stopping outside the Georgian to cast your vote would have cost you under the proposals, whereas in fact it would not - assuming of course that any spaces were available) and that there was never a plan for a forest of parking meters along the streets, as some objectors went around saying and which some would not doubt object to on aesthetic grounds, and hey presto you can get the signatures.

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  5. I have no particular hang-up about chain stores vs independents – I am happy enough to shop in independents if they do the business as far as I am concerned.
    But I don’t really see much prospect of multiples opening in Haslemere in any numbers anyway. It is not because of the market or catchment of the town. Surely there must be more spending power here than in most places, even larger ones. The problem is that the available retail properties, or even for that matter most of the unavailable ones, would not interest a multiple because they are too small or too difficult. They have to be a certain size, and capable of taking the lighting, shelving and window displays which most multiples would want to have.
    Probably the most promising site for a multiple is the vacant lot next door to WH Smith. After that, we have ex Taylor & Roberts – about the biggest available space and the cleanest in terms of shape and form. Still too small for most chain stores. Then there is ex Marley Flowers on the corner of West St (too small) and ex Enchanted Wood in Petworth Rd (too complicated). The most attractive spaces for a multiple are already taken, eg by Collingwood Bachelor and Boots & Lloyds pharmacies. You could of course ask why we need to big pharmacies almost next door to each other.
    Rumour has it that M&S Foods might be interested in opening a branch in Godalming, and certainly the local chamber of commerce seems to welcome that prospect, but it looks like the sticking point is finding a suitable location. It sounds like they have to wait for an suitable property to become vacant, but how will that happen? By an independent retailer going out of business? Or someone being priced out of the property at the next rent review or lease renewal because of what M&S is willing to pay?
    In truth, most of the retail units which are or might become available are simply too small to interest most independent retailers either. You can run a knick-knack shop or a gifte shoppe in these spaces, but not much else, and don’t we have enough of those already?

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  6. Getting a few national brands in here sounds good to me. It seems to me that our small shopkeepers have lost the plot when trying to compete with bigger chains. It is not just about price, but also service. No doubt the well-heeled folk around the old town, retired on their index-linked pensions from ICI, or “ladies who lunch” while their hubbies travel up to their jobs in the City every day, don’t mind that the shops are only open 9:30-5:30 and never on Sundays, but all us working folk in Critchmere and Woolmer Hill have very little opportunity to use them.
    And some of them don’t help themselves in other ways either. Without mentioning names, the staff in some of them are miserable and unhelpful. If they don’t have it in stock they don’t offer to order it for you. Maybe they have something to be miserable about with the state of the economy etc, but surely one the benefits of small-shopping is service with a smile, the chance to pass the time of say. If all you get is a long face and a few grunts, why bother?

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    1. Haslemere isn’t really a town at all, rather it is two, or three, large villages which have grown into each other. The condition and the character of each is quite different, and the people who live in each are different too. You can almost draw a line, north-south through the town, following Farnham Lane and then across to the station and down through the point where Courts Mount Road meets Courts Hill Road. Crossing that line is almost like crossing a border, with more affluent types to the east, more ordinary folk to the west. It’s not unlike Manhattan, with its rich East and poorer West Sides. I have heard tell that one of our Upper-East-Sider town councillors refers to Critchmere as “where the servants live”.
      And I don’t think it is any co-incidence that most of the “people who know best”, and most of the noise, about parking, the colour of railings etc, are Upper East Siders.
      Anyway, what kind of shops would the town want to see? The answer might be different depending on whether you are an East-sider or a West-sider, which is just as well, as the old town and Weyhill are two distinctly separated areas, and not just by geography.

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    2. please dont tar all independents with the same brush. one retailer in the town opens 5am to 5pm monday to saturday and 9am to 2pm on sundays and would do longer if it was viable to do so. plus offering way more services than the multiple round the corner. would a multiple reserve a newspaper on a daily basis and allow you to have a monthly account??? I dont think so!!

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    3. That is a fair point, illustrating that there is an exception to every rule. I wouldn't know about 5am because I am tucked up in bed at that time but I am well aware that she opens very early, and on Sundays, and did so even before WHS arrived - and I for one will always prefer the independent to WHS as long as the chouce remains.

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    4. I certainly agree that some do not do themselves any favours but, again, I think it is a bit unfair to tar everyone with the same brush

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    5. Agreed, but lets be clear - they have absolutely no right to determine parking arrangements in surrounding residential roads. If they had done more to engage instead of oppose residents I would have more sympathy. As it is I have none. I couldnt care how hard they work, I couldnt care what services they provide. They decided to bite the hand that feeds them, so I and many others will not support their continued operation.

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